https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite Gravity Support Forums Topic: Can't import or create new form on multisite en-US Mon, 20 Apr 2026 06:36:12 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 q https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/search.php https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-33261 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:15:31 +0000 nacke81 33261@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Good point Carl ... I'll make the suggestion at WPMU </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-33233 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:32:38 +0000 Carl Hancock 33233@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>It can't check for the existence of the tables instead of the presence of the version number. The version number is used to determine if Gravity Forms setup process should run... it's how it knows if it needs to do so or not. Because if you have version 1.5 installed and you then install version 1.6 it will know this is a new version so run the setup process. </p> <p>Gravity Forms isn't doing anything wrong, it's the plugins that allow you to duplicate options that are doing things incorrectly. They shouldn't be duplicating all options. A lot of options, for Gravity Forms and other plugins, are site specific. Duplicating them causes problems. So the issue is someone needs to create a site duplication plugin that actually works properly and takes this into account. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-33210 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:31:13 +0000 nacke81 33210@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Thanks for this workaround. Is this something that is going to be changed in future versions to avoid this problem?</p> <p>I like Ed's thoughts "Maybe Gravity Forms can check for the existence of the tables instead of the presence of the version number. That would be a little more involved, but act more like other plugins that use additional tables. I do not need to do this with other plugins." </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-24191 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:55:07 +0000 coburnenterprises 24191@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Ed, thank you so much for posting the solution! You saved me a ton of heartache and it worked like a charm. As for using the blog template I simply removed the rg_forms version from the template and now things work just fine on new sites. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-17169 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:06:43 +0000 Eric Boisvert 17169@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>There is a work around with the Blog Templates plugin from WPMU DEV and Gravity Forms. First, go ahead and create your new blog as usual. Then navigate to Network Admin&gt;Sites. Edit the newly created site and select the Settings tab. Search or scroll down to the RG Forms Version field. Delete the version number. Save your settings. Return to the Admin panel of the new WordPress site and create or import a new form. It appears that when you attempt to use Gravity Forms and it sees the version number missing it creates the necessary tables that Carl mentioned.</p> <p>I've tested these steps with importing a form so I did not need to recreate it each time. This saves you from having to edit the options table in the mysql database for the particular site. </p> <p>Maybe Gravity Forms can check for the existence of the tables instead of the presence of the version number. That would be a little more involved, but act more like other plugins that use additional tables. I do not need to do this with other plugins. </p> <p>The other work around is to simply exclude Gravity Forms from the default blog and activate after the new site is created and import the form. </p> <p>The New Blog Template plugin is still worth using despite these extra steps, especially if you have numerous pages, menus and plugins installed that needed to be duplicated. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-15713 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:31:28 +0000 Carl Hancock 15713@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>@wanbooven The issue is as I explained above. If you are using a tool to duplicate blog content when creating a new site in a WordPress network setup and it's duplicating the Gravity Forms data in the options table... this causes the issue.</p> <p>Gravity Forms stores the version of Gravity Forms that is installed int he options table using this key:</p> <p>rg_forms_version</p> <p>If that key exists, Gravity Forms thinks it is already installed and does not run it's setup routine... and thus does not create the necessary database tables for Gravity Forms to function properly.</p> <p>So what is happening is you are duplicating a site that already has the rg_forms_version value already set in wp_options and therefore the duplicated site thinks Gravity Forms is already setup properly.</p> <p>When duplicating sites you can't duplicate this value, otherwise the Gravity Forms setup routine does not work. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-15677 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:34:43 +0000 vvanbooven 15677@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>We have taken your suggestions and reinstalled blog_template.php and the issue still is not corrected. I also found this string in the WPMU DEV forums, just FYI....<br /> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br /> It's impossible to deactivate the Gravity Forms plugin on the templated site when GF (or any other plugin causing the same types of issues) is network activated. Could there be some other solution?</p> <p>Additionally, even if I deactivate GF on the template site, once I clone that site and then attempt to activate GF solely on the clone, I get the same errors as before; new forms cannot be created.</p> <p>Please explain.</p> <p>Aaron<br /> Lead Developer<br /> Reputation:4,517+</p> <p>Posted on 23rd June 2010 (6 months ago) #<br /> Didn't know you could network activate gravity forms. Most plugins won't run the install script when network activated. That's a very strange issue. A lot of it depends on how it checks whether to run an install script. If you can remove whatever flag it sets on install in the blog options table of the template blog (and keep it from changing, possibly by never visiting it, or blocking install on that specific blog id), then likely it would work with NBT.</p> <p>masonjames<br /> Sales &amp; Support Dude<br /> Reputation:3,468+</p> <p>Posted on 23rd June 2010 (6 months ago) #<br /> I tried a different approach, but am seeing the same result as Jason.</p> <p>I modified Gravity Forms to work as an mu-plugin. It's automatically setup to work for each of my users. With blog_templates, a new site is created and though Gravity Forms was activated, it wouldn't allow form creation. Now that blog_templates allows for db tables, I changed the settings to copy these tables as well. I'm seeing the same thing as Jason - Gravity Forms allows users to create a new form, but when they save it, it's given an ID of 0 and they cannot create any other forms.</p> <p>I believe that before using blog_templates, Gravity Forms worked fine as an mu-plugin and users could create forms as expected. I honestly don't remember for sure... I'll have to go back, deactivate blog_templates and see if that was the case.</p> <p>Jason Pelker<br /> Member<br /> Reputation:17+</p> <p>Posted on 25th June 2010 (6 months ago) #<br /> @James: I tested the bejeezus out of Gravity Forms and did everything in my power to get GF to work with New Blog Templates--every possible combination of turning the plugin on and off, etc. Nothing will allow this two to get along currently, so again, I cannot use New Blog Templates, although I really, really would like to (it's a long overdue, brilliant idea).</p> <p>Any WP geniuses out there with any ideas on how to fix this issue? I'm at the end of my rope and I am offering a bounty to make it happen.</p> <p>Jason Pelker<br /> Member<br /> Reputation:17+</p> <p>Posted on 25th June 2010 (6 months ago) #<br /> Oops. This posted twice. Anyway, James, I liked your article in WPTavern today. I knew your avatar looked familiar:)</p> <p>masonjames<br /> Sales &amp; Support Dude<br /> Reputation:3,468+</p> <p>Posted on 25th June 2010 (6 months ago) #<br /> @Jason thanks for the feedback on the article. It wasn't as long in my head when I was writing... ah well.</p> <p>If I find a solution for the GF + New Blog Templates I'll let ya know. I've got a site that I'd like to see that combination implemented on, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Still, worth looking into. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-15350 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:26:11 +0000 Carl Hancock 15350@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>The issue that @ynpnnational encountered was due to how they were duplicating sites in a WordPress network install. This was solved by making an adjustment to the plugin they were using for site duplication: Default Blog.</p> <p>In the Default Blog plugin you can define what data from the Options Table is duplicated when a new site is created in WordPress Multi-Site. You want to make sure that this option is NOT duplicated (unchecked in the Default Blog options table settings):</p> <p>rg_forms_version</p> <p>This should not be duplicated when a new site is created because if this value exists, Gravity Forms does not create the necessary database tables because it assumes it is already installed and the tables already exist. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-15333 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:22:46 +0000 Carl Hancock 15333@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>@ynpnnational Responded via email.</p> <p>@wanbooven Also responded to your email request. I have some questions as to how you are creating sites in WordPress. You mentioned "duplicating" sites, but that isn't built in Multi-Site/Network functionality, there is only an Add New feature. What are you using to "duplicate" sites? My guess is it's not duplicating the GF tables. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/cant-import-or-create-new-form-on-multisite#post-15302 Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:06:09 +0000 vvanbooven 15302@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Hi all, we have had this problem repeatedly, and in the MU environment it has something to do with the tables not transferring over at all. Once the tables are added back in, GF seems to work again. It's constant and drives us crazy. We have tried all of the steps listed above, and nothing fixes the issue except manually re-creating the tables. I will also send a ticket in a reference this post.<br /> Valerie vanBooven </p>