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		<title>Gravity Support Forums Topic: Drop Down Menu first item not selected</title>
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			<title>Rob Harrell on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-72340</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Rob Harrell</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You can create a drop down, with the first option to be: &#34;Select Below&#34; or &#34;Please Select&#34;. Then enable values on the field, but leave a blank value for the &#34;Select Below&#34; option.
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			<title>posilvano on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-72331</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>posilvano</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have the same problem... any news about it? Contact form 7 (free plugin), do it so simple...
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			<title>All on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-72320</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>All</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Any update on this request of integrating default values as not valid submission through the GUI.
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			<title>David Peralty on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-60493</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 21:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>David Peralty</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes, you could create an option in your drop down called &#34;Select Below&#34; then validate using the hook you pointed out creating an error if they leave it on &#34;Select Below&#34;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You could not, however, determine if they have opened the field or not though using PHP. You could use some form of JavaScript validation, but you would have to write this yourself (JS is my weak point)
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			<title>All on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-60486</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 16:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>All</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Until the developers provide a solution referencing &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.gravityhelp.com/documentation/page/Gform_field_validation&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.gravityhelp.com/documentation/page/Gform_field_validation&#60;/a&#62; where in form_display.php would you insert the example code to make it work.  This would help to assure that the code is placed correctly. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;any assistance would be appreciated.
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			<title>All on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-60428</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>All</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Built-in functionality or perhaps a true &#34;developer eddition&#34; will plugin support to allow any changes to work when you upgrade.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Some people like setting the default options so that people don't have to enter data on a long form with multiple selections. &#34;&#60;br /&#62;
Yes, unfortunately that doesn't provide accuracy if you truly require absolute validation of the data.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;suggestion would be a not allowed input option.
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			<title>David Peralty on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
			<link>https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/drop-down-menu-first-item-not-selected#post-59448</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 14:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>David Peralty</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Some people like setting the default options so that people don't have to enter data on a long form with multiple selections. So we would have to decide some sort of UI for controlling this effectively.
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			<title>All on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>All</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;thanks.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;essentially the functionality should be.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1.  if the user has touched the field or not&#60;br /&#62;
---- if they haven't ERROR&#60;br /&#62;
---- if they have and the default value selected ERROR
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			<title>David Peralty on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>David Peralty</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you want to stop Please Select from being a valid entry, have a look at the following hook:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.gravityhelp.com/documentation/page/Gform_field_validation&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.gravityhelp.com/documentation/page/Gform_field_validation&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I will ping the developers about this to see if we can come up with a built-in solution in the future.
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			<title>All on "Drop Down Menu first item not selected"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;- What is the best way to make sure the user actually has selected one of the valid items not left the default item through validation?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;use case issue:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;using drop down menu&#60;br /&#62;
ex. 1&#60;br /&#62;
item1&#60;br /&#62;
item2&#60;br /&#62;
item3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;issue:&#60;br /&#62;
1.  some users leave the default item selected when it's not what they wanted&#60;br /&#62;
2.  form doesn't have a way to make sure that the user actually selected an item&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;workaround kind of&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ex. 2&#60;br /&#62;
Please select&#60;br /&#62;
item1&#60;br /&#62;
item2&#60;br /&#62;
item3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;issue:&#60;br /&#62;
1.  form allows &#34;Please select&#34; as a valid entry
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