https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots Gravity Support Forums Topic: Hashcash, Akismet and Honey Pots en-US Tue, 21 Apr 2026 21:42:33 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 q https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/search.php https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-122536 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:43:21 +0000 Chris Hajer 122536@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>There is no need to install the honeypot. You can activate it on the form settings tab for each form. Screenshot: <a href="http://minus.com/lbxoPbFwC6Xmqi" rel="nofollow">http://minus.com/lbxoPbFwC6Xmqi</a></p> <p>Check the box which says "Enable anti-spam honeypot" </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-122297 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:49:25 +0000 egils 122297@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Sorry for digging this up. But has the spam issues been resolved? I've been using GF for some time now but just recently I got a load of spam submissions that were added to the global entries and not spam enries.</p> <p>I have akismet installed but I guess it's not helping.</p> <p>How do you I install honey pot?</p> <p>I can't use captcha on my site because my contact form is on a narrow sidebar that is just 250px wide so a recaptcha form doesn't fit or any other captcha. Also I don't want my customers to fill out captchas.</p> <p>Also how do I delete all these spam entries? <a href="http://i.imm.io/SUvB.png" rel="nofollow">http://i.imm.io/SUvB.png</a><br /> I know in spam section you can just click on delete all... I don't know<br /> how to delete them through mysql.</p> <p>Please help, thanks! </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14157 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:11:24 +0000 igneous 14157@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Understood. Well, now that I've discovered the joys of honeypot, I am in no rush to have Akismet support. Take your time and make sure it's done right. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14150 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:39 +0000 Carl Hancock 14150@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>@igneous Correct. But we also have to add the capabilities to Gravity Forms to flag entries as spam so they don't appear in entries, but allow you to go to a Spam box and view entries flagged as spam and then unspam or delete them like WordPress does with comments. So it's not as simple as just doing the Akismet piece. We do plan on doing Akismet integration, but not until we have time to devote to do the entire implementation the right way. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14147 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:06:46 +0000 igneous 14147@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>But realistically, the fields you listed should be enough.</p> <p>comment_author &gt; Name<br /> comment_author_email &gt; Email<br /> comment_author_url &gt; Website<br /> comment_content &gt; Paragraph Text</p> <p>Those Akismet &gt; Gravity Forms combinations are pretty straightforward and don't need any user customization. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14123 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:50:11 +0000 Carl Hancock 14123@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <blockquote><p>5 good reasons FOR, and I honestly can't think any reasons AGAINST. If you can think of one, please enlighten me.</p></blockquote> <p>It's not so simple. Akismet is specifically designed for comment spam, it isn't a generic spam filter. The fields it accepts are comment specific and it doesn't accept custom fields of any type... it's limited. Here are the fields Akismet accepts:</p> <p>comment_author<br /> comment_author_email<br /> comment_author_url<br /> comment_content</p> <p>Gravity Forms is a form tool and creates forms for everything. It isn't a comment form and has a much wider range of fields that can be used.</p> <p>What is going to end up happening is you are going to have to map a limited number of your form fields to the available Akismet fields. So your only going to be able to pass to Akismet a Name, Email, URL and 1 paragraph field. Akismet is going to think it's a comment.</p> <p>We are planning on Akismet add-on, however we have to see how to best implement it and take advantage of what Akismet offers while also making it usable with our users. On top of that we also have to implement a Spam flag so Entries are marked as Spam and can be browsed as such.</p> <p>Once you start getting into the actual implementation, it isn't as simple as just passing the form data to Akismet. When we do it, we are going to do it right. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14113 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:10:54 +0000 chm 14113@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Hrm, I've just read what the honeypot feature does and I must admit it's a pretty good way to deal with spammers. Although I still have every faith in Akismet's effectiveness. One site I run has around 10500 comments and only 4 false positives over a 2 year period. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14112 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:59:52 +0000 Chris Hajer 14112@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>I have tried Akismet in the past and find the false positives far more damaging than the spam I get without using Akismet (and there is very rarely any spam after starting to use the built-in honeypot.) I can't afford to flag a legitimate form submission as spam, but I can deal with the spam I get without using Akismet.</p> <p>I also received spam even when using Akismet, so I would say the honeypot solution is as effective as Akismet for me, without any false positives.</p> <p>Looking over form submissions for one form on one site, I have 857 submissions and 3 spam messages, when using the honeypot and not Akismet. That's been my experience and why I won't use Akismet with Gravity Forms, even if it does get included in the future. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14111 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:37:27 +0000 chm 14111@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Well, no, I suppose it is possible to survive in a post-apocalyptic internet without Akismet, but my reasoning is this:</p> <p>1. Akismet is an official Automattic service<br /> 2. Akismet plugin is bundled with WordPress<br /> 3. Akismet is very effective at fighting spam<br /> 4. Akismet can be used by other plugins and applications<br /> 5. Akismet is transparent and does not require captchas or any other manual verification</p> <p>5 good reasons FOR, and I honestly can't think any reasons AGAINST. If you can think of one, please enlighten me.</p> <p>That's why I was so surprised that a paid and actively supported and updated plugin that has been around for quite some time _still_ doesn't have Akismet integration while completely free alternatives do. </p> https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/topic/hashcash-akismet-and-honey-pots#post-14110 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:11:21 +0000 Kevin Flahaut 14110@https://legacy.forums.gravityhelp.com/ <p>Nope. Askimet support isn't part of 1.5 but will be added in the near future. I would disagree that it is "a basic and absolutely essential feature" but nonetheless, it's something we do plan on adding so there will be more spam prevention options. </p>