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conditional forms - is this possible?

  1. Phof Plup
    Member

    Is it possible to create a form that is conditional on another form having been completed?

    I haven't purchased yet, just wanted to check if this is possible first.

    thanks

    Posted 14 years ago on Saturday September 25, 2010 | Permalink
  2. Phof Plup
    Member

    just discovered the demo and found the answer to my question appears to be a no. Am surprised from the demo which seems a lot more basic than formidable pro. Is there a roadmap for future developments of gravity?

    Posted 14 years ago on Monday September 27, 2010 | Permalink
  3. I'm not sure what you mean by a form that is conditional on another form having been completed? Please clarify the usage scenario.

    There is an internal roadmap, it isn't publicly accessible. We are currently working on pricing fields with price calculation and payment processing capabilities along with a long list of other features we plan on adding.

    If you think Gravity Forms is basic in it's capabilities than you seriously underestimate what is possible with the plugin.

    We aren't in a feature race like some people seem to be. We add features in a well thought out manner. If we wanted to add every feature under the sun, we certainly could. But I guarantee you the plugin wouldn't be as good or stable if we did. Unlike other form applications we don't rush to cram everything into the plugin until it becomes a bloated mess under the hood.

    Posted 14 years ago on Monday September 27, 2010 | Permalink
  4. Phof Plup
    Member

    usage scenario:

    User can see only Form A
    User completes Form A and submits
    User can now see form B

    How they get to see form B could be via redirect, or it could simply be that it's already hidden away on a page where they couldn't previously see it. For example somebody registers for an event and having then registered they can access a further page with a form on it.

    I think a public roadmap would be useful. The fact is there are two very similar looking plugins, both charging a similar amount and both at early stages so it would help a lot to get an idea of where Gravity Forms is going.

    I'm glad to have underestimated - that's what I was hoping :)

    Where you have an edge, and it's a big one in my opinion is these forums. Formidable has no option for user feedback apart from those who purchase the developer license which sends a strong signal that the developer isn't very interested in hearing peoples views.

    Where Gravity falls down is in the one year licensing. The idea that the plugin might break in 15 months after a wp upgrade is off putting. Personally I'd be happy to pay for some additional functionality ie. pay just once for the core plugin but then pay for further stuff as and when needed.

    I don't know if you want that kind of feedback or not, but just to give you an idea of how I'm thinking when trying to weigh up which one to go with (and I still can't make my mind up!!). Will have another play with the demo site to try and decide.

    Posted 14 years ago on Monday September 27, 2010 | Permalink
  5. You use the confirmation redirect functionality. Form A would redirect to Form B and you can pass data to Form B using the query string as part of the confirmation redirect. Form A can then be setup to pre-populate fields based on query string values that are passed to it. So yes, it does what you are requesting.

    I'll explain our licensing to you in the simplest terms... sustainability.

    If we didn't switch to the 1 year pricing model we would be killing our business slowly. We aren't in this for the short term and aren't looking to make a quick buck. We are looking to build a business that our users can rely on for years to come.

    If we provided support and updates to all our users forever... with no additional income from those users our support load would snowball until it was no longer sustainable for us to provide a high level of quality support.

    If we have 1000 customers this year (we have much more but i'm using that number as an example) and a year from now we have 2000 customers... we have to support those 2000 customers despite the fact half of them we haven't seen income from in over a year. Another year from then we add 1000 more customers and now we are supporting 3000 customers of which 2000 of them we haven't seen income from in 1-2 years.

    Providing lifetime support on a product is not a sustainable business model.

    If you are a web developer, would you build a web site for someone and then provide them lifetime support and updates FOREVER at no additional cost to them?

    Our pricing model was designed to insure sustainability for Gravity Forms as a product and insure that we can continue to provide a high level of support for our customers now and well into the future.

    So you are aware, license renewals aren't at full price. When the renewal system launches next year you will be able to renew your license at 25-50% off the standard price (Multi and Developer at 50% off). So the pricing for renewals is at a discount.

    Also be aware that the Demo site itself is crippled. It's locked down to prevent people from causing problems. It's very difficult to demo the Admin portion of a site because it requires they have Admin access. So the Demo can give you an idea of the basics, but it certainly doesn't let you do everything or try everything the plugin can do.

    Posted 14 years ago on Monday September 27, 2010 | Permalink
  6. Phof Plup
    Member

    hm........ well actually I think you make a very fair point. Do I want to be confident you'll be in for the long term? yep.

    And it seems you've got the functionality I wanted anyway, and as already said being able to have this dialogue makes all the difference.

    Will be signing up shortly, and will happily subscribe again in a years time, providing of course it continues to be the very good plugin it seems to be - thanks for your time :)

    Posted 14 years ago on Monday September 27, 2010 | Permalink