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Email Notifications Stopped Working

  1. zenboy
    Member

    Hi,
    I set up a bunch of lead gen sites quite some time back (12 sites) and tested all the forms and everything worked fine. I set up the notification emails to go to my Gmail email and the companies email I'm supplying the leads to. Everything worked fine then when I tested all the forms.

    Today I was going though all the sites and downloading all the leads so that I could invoice the company and discovered that the email notifications seem to have stopped working. Though the funny thing is one site seems to be working. I just did a test form submission and the email never came though.

    This really came as a big shock to me as I didn't realize I needed to regularly check the email notifications were working. I thought I just needed to check one time. Anyway if it is the case that all the leads I have been sending have not actually been sent then I will be out of pocket by over $3000 which is a shocker!

    I just wondered is anyone could explain why the emails have suddenly stopped being sent?

    Thanks,
    Dan.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  2. Gravity Forms doesn't send the email notifications, your web server does. Your web server is what sends the email, Gravity Forms just executes the wp_mail() function call and asks your web server to send the email. If there is any problem with emails not being sent, it's going to be a problem with your web server.

    Have you tested your forms? Are notifications being sent? If not have you checked your GMail Spam box to make sure they aren't ending up in your Spam box? Who is your web host? If it's GoDaddy I won't be surprised, they are notorious for being terrible about sending email.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  3. zenboy
    Member

    Thanks for the reply.

    Yes I originally tested the forms and all worked. I did another test today with one of the sites and the email did not get though. I also checked my spam folder and it's not in there.

    I host with Servint who are normally very reliable. (Not Godaddy)

    Should I contact my hosting support about the issue? If so what should I ask them exactly?

    Thanks,
    Dan.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  4. The first thing you can do is try testing using a different email address. Create a new GMail address for instance (and be sure to check it's spam filter). If it's not sending, chances are something changed on the server.

    One solution at that point is to configure your WordPress site to send email using SMTP using the WP-Mail SMTP Plugin which is more reliable than standard sendmail, but requires knowing an SMTP login and settings which you can get from your host. This plugin can be downloaded here:

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/

    But something must have changed on your server. Nothing has changed with how Gravity Forms sends email and it just uses the built in WordPress mail function.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  5. zenboy
    Member

    OK I will try that plugin but I need the email to be delivered to the lead company too. It's got to be reliable otherwise I'm loosing $$$

    I understand that you are saying it's my server and I just emailed my server support and this is their reply -

    "Hello,

    Can you provide me with a method to reproduce the sending of mail through these forms?

    Additionally, the only unsent mail I see in the queue is directed toward AOL. AOL is relatively strict in regard to mailing practices, and has rate limited your server due to poor reputation:

    http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421rlyb3.html

    If you do send a lot of mail to AOL, I would recommend filling reading through the following page, the linked "Best Practices" page, and filling out the "support request" form which is also found here:

    http://postmaster.info.aol.com/Postmaster.Reputation.php

    Thank you,

    Jim
    ServInt MST"
    --------------------------
    I am not sure what to send them? Can you advise please.
    Dan.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  6. I'm not 100% sure what you would need to send them, you may need to discuss this further with ServInt as far as the AOL issue goes. Thats a server issue. You are most likely hosted on a shared host (i'm guessing) and not a dedicated, which means that entire server has been put under a rate limit by AOL based on the IP address information.

    I would still suggest looking into installing and configuring the SMTP plugin. You can then get with ServInt for the proper SMTP settings and then test the forms with SMTP enabled.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  7. zenboy
    Member

    I have no idea what the AOL issue is but I don't think it's related.

    I am hosted on a VPS server not a shared one... OK I will instal the SMTP plugin on all my sites and then contact Servint support for the proper settings. Hopefully they will understand what to do because I have no idea (-;

    Thanks for you help Carl.
    Dan.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday August 1, 2011 | Permalink
  8. zenboy
    Member

    Hi Carl,
    Just thought I would send this as it might be of some interest. My hosting support say this is why the emails were not getting through -

    "# mail getting denied by gmail.

    2011-08-02 08:30:21 1QoE6Y-0002UJ-6S ** webstores.support@gmail.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.115.27]: 550-5.7.1 [64.131.74.200 1] Our system has detected an unusual rate of\n550-5.7.1 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our\n550-5.7.1 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been blocked.\n550-5.7.1 Please visit http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html to review\n550 5.7.1 our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines. ed9si8099219vdb.122"
    ----------------
    I'm going to check out Googles guidelines now to see what I can do to get my IP unblocked.

    Dan.

    Posted 12 years ago on Tuesday August 2, 2011 | Permalink
  9. zenboy
    I'm having the exact same issue. Did you find a solution?
    thanks

    Posted 12 years ago on Friday August 5, 2011 | Permalink
  10. If your IP address is getting blocked by GMail for spam then you definitely need to discuss this with your web host. That should be part of their responsibility. Since some IP addresses can be shared depending on your shared web host setup, some other customer could be getting you blacklisted. Most web hosts take this stuff seriously so i'd definitely discuss this with them if I were you.

    We are getting ready to start development on Add-Ons for both PostMark (http://www.postmarkapp.com) and Amazon Simple Email Service (http://aws.amazon.com/ses/) which are hosted email services. These Add-Ons will allow you to send all your Gravity Forms notifications via these services which are far more reliable and bullet proof than your web host is going to be. They do cost money, but they are cheap and the reliability is worth paying for.

    Posted 12 years ago on Friday August 5, 2011 | Permalink
  11. hulihulagirl
    Member

    I am having a similar problem. The forms are replying fine to the input email but not sending the form to admin. I installed the mad mimi plugin. I deactivated it because I thought it might be causing problems. I don't think my issue is the same as the others above. I just started using this today. Any suggestions?

    Posted 12 years ago on Saturday August 6, 2011 | Permalink
  12. i am having the same problem... all emails are going to spam :(

    would very much like amazon ses support... big fan of amazon!!!!

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday September 28, 2011 | Permalink
  13. Have you checked out this article by Joost de Valk?

    http://yoast.com/email-reliability/

    It's a surprisingly complex topic.

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday September 28, 2011 | Permalink
  14. @iandymorris See the link Chris provided above. The spam issue is a web server related issue with the emails sent by your server.

    We do plan on creating Add-Ons for 3rd party email services with Amazon SES being one of the services we are looking at along with PostMark.

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday September 28, 2011 | Permalink
  15. I just read through this thread and I _think_ I'm having the same problem, but I don't think it's a spam issue. I have several forms set up on my site:

    http://benedictinewomen.org/prayer-worship/prayer-requests/
    http://benedictinewomen.org/support-our-work/donate-now-to-holy-wisdom-monastery/
    http://benedictinewomen.org/retreats/group-retreats/be-still-an-advent-day-of-reflection/

    They all have email notifications set up. The first two work fine, the third one doesn't send email notifications. I installed the WP Email SMTP plugin and that didn't help (the first two still work fine).

    Any other thoughts on this glitch? I'm running the Thesis theme and latest version of WordPress.

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 2, 2011 | Permalink
  16. What is different about the 3rd form? Something in the content of the notification or the to or from email address might be causing you a problem.

    Joost de Valk wrote up a good article about email reliability and all that goes into deliverability of the messages:
    http://yoast.com/email-reliability/

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 2, 2011 | Permalink
  17. I don't see any noticeable differences between the third form. The only thing is that I don't have the title displayed in the Gravity Forms shortcode on the third one (that seems pretty innocuous). Here's a comparison of my 3 forms:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AvTBHSGZL76qdHlrYzBVWmtCME5PR2RRaF9LZElLaVE&output=html

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 2, 2011 | Permalink
  18. I have the same problem. My clients have not received any of the notifications! Yikes! We NEED to get to the bottom of this or this plug-in will not help us at all. Anyone come up with a fix?

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 2, 2011 | Permalink
  19. Gavinelis, please start a new topic for your issue so we can handle it individually. Please post the details of your problem, and a URL to your site. Thank you.

    Posted 12 years ago on Thursday November 3, 2011 | Permalink
  20. Mike, please try just one email address in the notification, and then try a different address (different domain) if the first single address does not work. It's possible your host does not like multiple emails in the TO: (although that seems unlikely, given how you have the other forms set up).

    Also, be sure in your notification that the email addresses are separated by one comma only (each), no spaces, no semi-colons.

    It's also interesting that the first two forms are older, and the one not sending notifications is newer.

    Posted 12 years ago on Thursday November 3, 2011 | Permalink
  21. Has anyone received a real answer to this problem.

    Mine come up every now and again then goes away - without me making ANY changes to forms or anything else.

    The last time I had this error I double checked with my host that I had everything configured correctly.

    I'm a Google apps user.

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 30, 2011 | Permalink
  22. This may help.

    I called and spent the last 30 minutes on the phone with Google Apps support and they told me I should have multiple MX records set up.

    Here is the page I used to add them in the right order - http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=174125

    Craig

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 30, 2011 | Permalink
  23. Here is something else that might help.

    I emailed the support team at Dreamhost about this issue and here is what they had to say

    The mail coming from the web server doesn't using Google apps, *** the webserver itself sends the emails. ***

    If you have any more questions then please let me know.

    Thanks!
    Daniel J

    I have sent them another request asking if there is a way for the emails to sent directly via Google apps or a way for the emails to go out immediately.

    Posted 12 years ago on Wednesday November 30, 2011 | Permalink
  24. You can use an external SMTP server, like your Google Apps account, by installing and configuring the WP Mail SMTP plugin. Have you already tried that?

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/

    You host is correct about the mail coming from your server. That's true. There is a WordPress function wp_mail() that uses the web server's mail function. That may not be ideal in your situation. The WP Mail SMTP plugin allows you to set a server of your choice.

    Posted 12 years ago on Thursday December 1, 2011 | Permalink
  25. I started having problems recently. All notifications go to the same email address. However, a few of the forms will not send notifications at all, even when manually resending the notifications. This started happening about two weeks ago.

    Posted 12 years ago on Monday December 26, 2011 | Permalink
  26. @sethshoultes, please start a new topic. Every email delivery problem is different and we can focus better on your situation if you post a link to your form and some details about your setup, including your hosting company, and if you are using a plugin like WP Mail SMTP for mail delivery. Thank you.

    Posted 12 years ago on Tuesday December 27, 2011 | Permalink

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