Hi,
I can tell from the snippets that a pre-sale person can read that there is a plan for an Authorize.Net plugin. What's the current timetable?
I'm starting an overhaul to a non-profit's website and Authorize.net integration is critical. I think Gravity Forms would be a great fit for them, but having an Authorize.net add-on would be clutch.
Thanks,
Brandon
gferris1000
Member
Ditto. While PayPal is nice, there is a whole world of non-profits that use only Authorize.net that need a Gravity Forms type solution. Donations often are not supported by the default by ecommerce packages due to the many options needing to be configured and the fact that the customer sets the price. Gravity forms is a great solution for this.....with Authorize.net.
There is no public timetable. We are working on other development at the moment. Authorize.net integration is planned, but we can't give a timetable because we don't want to set unreasonable expectations. Once we begin development on it we will release public betas.
I already own a developer license and I love the PayPal plugin. I use it for personal use but would love to have Authorize.net integration as well for at my place of work.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Carl. I appreciate not setting expectations, but an idea of how high on the list Authorize.Net is would be helpful too. If there's anything more you can share, it would much appreciated, i.e. looking to start development in 2011, by 2013, planned but no plans to develop, etc.
My dollars on this project are limited and seems that all Authorize.net options include a price tag. Credit card acceptance is a stated need; whereas, easy-to-modify contact forms isn't. I may read over the Authorize API docs this weekend to see if I feel comfortable going that route instead.
Thanks,
BK
We hear you, Authorize.Net integration is definitely on our todo list. But it's going to be more involved than the PayPal Add-On because it's going to require we add new field types to Gravity Forms for capturing credit card data, and then we have to be careful with how that data is handled so that we aren't storing credit card information, etc. So when we implement it, we want to make sure we do it properly.
We are discussing bringing on additional development resources specifically to focus on Add-On development and updates. There are a lot of Add-Ons we want to do, and enhancements to existing Add-On's we want to make but we need to bring on additional resources to do so.
Carl, you posted 6 months ago that Authorize.net was "next" after PayPal. However, to me, reading this sounds like there's been no work done on it. That it's still on the "to do" list and that it "is going to be" rather than "it has been." This is the first post I've seen admitting that you need help to get it done.
Am I reading right that you basically don't have any work done on it, and you don't have a definitive plan to execute to get it done?
It's your choice what you do, but it would be nice if you'd be honest about the plans and your readiness to execute them, given the huge amount of interest.
Thanks,
- @tollie
Actually, longer ago than 6 months:
Carl Hancock says:
September 14, 2010 at 5:36 pm
A Gravity Forms update containing this new field functionality will be released in tandem with the PayPal add-on.The fields themselves will be part of the core. The PayPal Add-On will enable payment processing with PayPal and additional payment processing add-ons (Authorize.Net, etc.) will follow after that.
@tollie
Carl has been honest about everything here.. He/we haven't committed to any specific date and the Authorize.net add-on is still on the table. Sure, we've been optimistic and have wanted to get it out there sooner, but the fact is that there are other core features and other add-ons that are more highly requested and have been prioritized accordingly.
If you're unable to wait on an official Gravity Forms Authorize.net plugin, I'm sure you could contract an independent developer who could take take one of the existing add-ons and use as a framework to do the integration for you.
Kevin, to be clear, I'm not upset and I'm not accusing anyone of being deliberately dishonest. I'm just asking you to be open and forthcoming as a reality check for us waiting. Here are my questions again:
Am I reading right that you basically don't have any work done on it, and you don't have a definitive plan to execute to get it done?
Also,
I'm sure you could contract an independent developer who could take take one of the existing add-ons and use as a framework to do the integration for you.
Apparently not easily, or else I'd assume you'd have already done it.
Thanks,
- @tollie
And not to muddy the waters, but is the delay in any way related to GPL issues? eg. Are you hesitant to develop it yourself knowing that others will be entitled to it freely? Or, are you waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting?
Not suggesting that either are the case, but I'd just like to be sure.
PS. I'm not a GPL expert. I'm just assuming that any programming stemming off of Gravity Forms, which stems off of Wordpress, must inherit the GPL.
Nope, we're not actively working on it at the moment and we're planning on doing it in-house rather than hiring someone outside to do it.. that was never the plan. We're busy right now working on some new products and other Gravity Forms enhancements. We do have some internal timelines/goals for new add-on releases, but nothing that we're sharing or committing to publicly right now.
None of this has nothing to do with anything GPL or anything of that nature.. Gravity Forms is released under the GPL so why would that make any difference in regards to the add-on? That's kind of reaching for straws isn't it? It's like I've already explained, there have been bigger fish to fry before we get around to the Authorize.net piece.
I'm sure it's a hot-ticket item for you and many others, but it's still going to be a while before it's out there. Trust me, the moment we have a beta for people to play with, we'll announce it so everyone can get their hands on it.
When I say it's "Next" after PayPal that is in reference to it would be the next Payment Processor related Add-On we create. It's not the next thing we are developing. We haven't committed to a timetable for the Authorize.Net Add-On because we haven't begun development on it. We are working on other development at the moment.
We don't promise dates specifically because we don't want to set unrealistic expectations. Until it begins active development there isn't any kind of timeframe I can give you. Once it's in development we will release it as a beta so people can begin using it.
There are many many Add-Ons we would like to create (AWeber, Constant Contact, Highrise, Salesforce, PayPal Pro, Authorize.Net) and we will knock them all out eventually but we have other development to complete before we do another cycle of Add-Ons.
Andrew
Member
I understand the concern for unmet expectations. I also understand having some roadmap that might be updated periodically (a condensed version of your plans that you edit in a blog update to keep the community informed...many sites do this and is helpful).
AS to the assistance on the Authorize.net Add-On, I recall others have expressed hoping to help do this with you ( previous topic, http://www.gravityhelp.com/forums/topic/authorizenet-plugin). Don't know if you've barked up that tree and left or the general desire for in-house representation is fundamental.
Thanks for trying to update us with this post, and I hope you can consider a simple, loose, even vague roadmap with tons of disclaimers and post updates, which will alleviate at least some new topics.
Cheers
First of all. I love gravity forms. Nice work fellas!!!
I too would love to see an Authorize.net Add-On.
FYI: I know that (because we have already executed a project that does this) Authorize.net has the capabilities to process the transaction on their secure servers similar to how PayPal works. Thus keeping the secure credit card info off each individual website and database. This should be much simpler to execute whether "tollie" hires a independent developer or Kevin & Carl's team work it out in house. Either way it should keep the developer costs/man hours down considerably.
-Patiently awaiting AuthNet Add-On
Unrelated to anything serious, I just noticed the replies. For the record, "ihatch," Tollie is my real name. No need for quotes. :)
Carl, Kevin, thanks for the replies. A bit disappointed that you're unwilling to give ANY time frame. I was under a different impression from your previous comments on this topic.
I just had to make sure that the GPL wasn't an issue. My (slight) concern there was based on one of Carl's previous remarks:
If you are looking for us to throw our hands up and make the it 100% GPL, it's not going to happen. Just like your are an idealogue as you put it, so are we when it comes to protecting our hard work. This isn't a hobby. It's what we do for a living. If you don't like how we do business, there are plenty of other forms plugins available for WordPress.
Although I still would love to see a general expectation of an ETA published, I've had to stop holding out and move on to another solution for my purposes.
Thanks,
- tollie
@tollie Because we are a small team we are unable to provide an ETA on something that isn't currently in active development. Currently we are working on Gravity Forms v1.6, an Add-On for AWeber and a new product for WordPress. The only ETA i could give you is we would like to have an Authorize.Net Add-On later this year. But until it's in active development any ETA would just be pure guesswork.
Just checking in again on Authorize.net add-on? Has it made the jump to "Active Development"? If not, is sure seems many people are waiting for this one. I bet you could get some development donations to push it to the front of the line. Sure seems like you may get more sales of the plugin as well.
Thanks!
Mitch
The Authorize.Net Add-On is getting ready to be released as a beta. It's already undergoing internal testing along with a new Credit Card field being added to Gravity Forms to be used with the Authorize.Net Add-On and future payment gateway add-ons. We hope to release it as a Beta 1 release sometime next week.
The Beta 1 release may only support single payments. I'm not 100% sure if the recurring payment functionality will be ready to be included in the Beta 1 release as it is still in development. Authorize.Net is not as easy to work with as PayPal as far as recurring payments go due to the fact they don't have a solid IPN type callback like PayPal does. So we are having to create our own functionality that will tie into WordPress cron like functionality to keep tabs on recurring payments so it knows when one has been made or canceled.
That's great news. FYI, I'd probably rather use the recurring function through the gateway anyway.
We will post on the blog once it is ready for beta testing.
As for the recurring payments, our cron job isn't going to handle making the payments, that is handled by a recurring profile in Authorize.Net. What the script will do is check to make sure the recurring payment is still active to know if an entry should be marked as canceled/etc.
PayPal makes this easy with their IPN capabilities. Authorize.Net does not.
@Carl
This is totally wonderful. I just started looking for Authorize.net integration earlier today. I'm so glad I started looking today and not yesterday or I might have been a little disappointed :).
By the way, I'm a Developer License holder and I use this plugin on every single site i create for myself or my clients. It's the only plugin in our repertoire that is used on every site. Thanks for your great work!
@Carl - Do you have a rough estimate of when it'll be ready for beta testing? I hate to ask, but even answer like "in 1 wk / 1 month / never" is fine -- I have a client with a short deadline who wants this feature, and I would be more than happy to be one of your guinea-pigs!
Most recent information from @carl
http://www.gravityhelp.com/forums/topic/paypal-pro-add-on-anybody-interested#post-35909
